Research of Chird Bobbitt's line Page 5
This is an email history of the research of Chird Bobbitt's genealogy line by
Marsha Berry, Eileen Sears, and Chird Bobbitt
The DNA Loci Designation DYS # and Y-Chromosome Allele results for Chird's line is...
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DYS 393 |
DYS 390 |
DYS 19 |
DYS 391 |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS 426 |
DYS 388 |
DYS 439 |
DYS 389-1 |
DYS 392 |
DYS 389-2 |
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Allele |
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25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
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29 |
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Results |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
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October 20, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Eileen,
Marsha did correctly type the 4 October 1730 burial date for
Philipus or Phillip Bobbett the first time Marsha typed it in her 16 Oct
2010 email, Updated Marsha's ancestry tree for Chird and Peter Bobbett m Ann
Swallow buried 24 Jul 1778 Beccles.
Yes type-o's do happen and I did have a type-o on the year of
burial for Phillip Bobbett the 2nd time I typed it in my 16 Oct 2010 email.
Previous to my 16 Oct 2010 email with the one year type-o
error,
on 15 Oct 2010 I had placed the burial date of 4 October 1730
for Philipus or Phillip Bobbett on my private ancestry tree for Chird. And
the 4 October 1730 burial date is on my PAF5.2.
And, in the 16 Oct 2010 email I only included information
about the 2 newest children found, Phillip and Daniel chr 1736.
There are a few items that I did not bring up on my 16 Oct
2010 email about Chird's genealogy and I will bring them up to
everyone later.
I will bring up one now that Eileen mentioned in her Tuesday,
19 Oct 2010 email and gave the name Abraham Bobbett infant in North Cove in
the 1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial Index
England and Wales,
so here it is the remainder of the information on page 8 of
14:
14 Oct 1737 Abraham Bobbett inf Suffolk, North Cove, Saint
Botolph
Thanks Eileen.
Regards,
Marsha
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Eileen Sears wrote:
Hi Marsha,
Hopefully my computer will be up and running soon. I was wondering
if you could make a correction for the burial of Phillip Bobbett -
there are 2 different dates on this email. The 4 Oct 1730 is the
correct date. Also, on the national burial index, there is a burial
listed for Abraham Bobbett, infant in North Cove. This can be added
to the file as well.
Thanks,
Eileen
October 20, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird, Eileen and Keith,
It is not something we do Eileen, but why are we having a
problem correctly seeing and writing Abraham Bobbett's burial date? I
believe it is because someone wants to get our attention to be found as we
would not have looked again and assumed it was for an Abraham we already
had.
There is a 2nd Abraham Bobbett, son of William Bobbett and
Susanna Budd Bobbett. It is not unusual to have 2 children with the same
first names. My Crabb family has 2 sons John: one they called John the
eldest and the other they called John the younger and both lived to their
old age.
Let us all take another really good look at the burial
date for Abraham Bobbett as it is fourteen or 14 Oct 1737 in North Cove,
Suffolk, England.
In the 1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National
Burial Index England and Wales, page 8 of 14
is Abraham Bobbett
Infant,
buried 14 Oct 1737 in Saint Botolph, North Cove, Suffolk,
Englan
An online medical dictionary definition of Infant is a
young human from the time of birth to one year of age.
We already have twin Abraham Bobbett baptised 5 Mar 1733 in
Worlingham, Suffolk, England.
If he died in 1737 he would be 4 years old in 1737 and not
under the usual definition of an infant and would be under the definition of
a young child.
However, in looking at Abraham's burial date of 14 Oct 1737,
that is the same date as Susanna Bobbett's 14 Oct 1737 baptism date so
Marsha knows that Abraham was buried on his sister's baptism day. Abraham
would have been born in 1737 to have him qualify as an Infant and he would
be a twin brother to Susanna. Marsha concludes parents William and Susanna
Budd Bobbett had 2 sets of twins.
New proposed 14 children of William and Susanna Bobbett:
1. Elizabeth born 1719 Beccles
2. Peter born 1720 Beccles
3. William born 1723 Beccles
4. James baptised 2 May 1725 Barnby
5. James baptised 2 Oct 1726 Barnby
6. Phillip born 1727 Worlingham
7. Daniel baptised 22 May 1730 Worlingham
8. Ezra baptised 9 Jul 1732 Worlingham
9. Abraham [twin] baptised 5 Mar 1733 Worlingham
10. Sarah [twin] baptised 5 Mar 1733 Worlingham
11. Daniel baptised 8 Aug 1736 North Cove
Note: to qualify as an Infant, Abraham would have been born
in 1737 and as he was buried on his sister Susanna's baptism day, Marsha
proposes Abraham is Susanna's twin brother.
12. Abraham [proposed twin] buried 14 Oct 1737 North Cove
13. Susanna [proposed twin] baptised 14 Oct 1737 North Cove
14. Mary baptised 2 Dec 1739 North Cove
Marsha sent this to everyone before, but here it is again.
Individual Record from old familysearch:
Susanna Bobbit
Christening: 14 Oct 1737 North Cove, Suffolk, England
Father: Wm. Bobbit
Mother: Susanna
Extracted christenings/baptisms
Batch No. C013662
Dates: 1696-1875
Source Call No. 0097131 Film
Parish registers for North Cove, 1696-1948. Church of
England. Parish Church of North Cove [Suffolk]
The important thing is that the 14 Oct 1737 North Cove,
Suffolk, England burial date for Abraham and the 14 Oct 1737 baptism date
for Susanna were previously put on the private ancestry tree Marsha has for
Chird and on Marsha's PAF5.2.
Eileen, as old familysearch has no record, please research a
birth/chr/baptism of a 2nd Abraham Bobbett. Many "Thank you's" Eileen.
Regards,
Marsha
October 31, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird,
Sometimes census surprises us and family live places we don't
expect.
What you are reading on your hyperlink on the private
ancestry tree Marsha has for you but Marsha did not personally write in, but
looked up the 1920 US Census, so the ancestry result is,
1920 Residence: Cypert, White, Arkansas,
then it says 1 source citation
and when you click on it says 1920 United States Federal
Census
and when one clicks on and reads the actual 1920 US census it
has at the left top:
State: Arkansas
County: White
Enumeration District: 162
Then:
Cypert Township, Name of Incorporated Place: Worden
13 Jan 1920
All were born in Arkansas and parents were born in Arkansas:
43, 43,
Bobbitt, Fleming, head, age 23, home: rent, farmer, general
farm
Bobbitt, Mary, wife, age 20
Bobbitt, William S., son, age 1/12
Churchill, Harry, brother, age 19, farmer, general farm
Chird, it will not be an official record like a census, but I
can add a residence for you for Bald Knob, Bald Knob Township, White County,
Arkansas. Do you know the year or years they lived there? Would you like
me to do this?
Regards,
Marsha
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Chird wrote:
Marsha
As far as I know my father never
lived in Cypert, White, AR as indicated here
Cypert is a township, not a city.
He and his first wife Mary T Watkins
lived near Bald Knob, Bald Knob Twp, in White County, AR.
Thanks
Chird
November 1, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird,
Attached is a jpeg of the 1920 US Census Fleming Bobbitt and
family Cybert Twp White Co AR, which has your father Flemon or as spelled
on the census, Fleming Bobbitt, his wife Mary, son William and brother Harry
Churchill.
I placed this 1920 US Census jpeg plus the 4 photos you sent
as attachments on your Sunday, 31 Oct 2010. 9:37 pm email on to the
ancestry private Bobbitt tree that I have for you with Flemon Benjamin
Bobbitt.
As far as the birth certificate for Earl Willard Bobbitt is
concerned, I recommend you ask his family again for a copy of the birth
certificate. Please let us know what happens.
Regards,
Marsha
Attachment 1...
November 1, 2010
Email by Chird Bobbitt
Marsha
Thanks so much for the 1920 census page. You can
add this document too.
As I said I do not have copies of a lot of
documents I have listed on my site, so anything you have I am glad to get.
I will continue asking for Earl's birth
certificate, may have to get it from the state.
Thanks again
Chird
Novermber 7, 2010
Email by Eileen Sears
Hi Chird, Marsha, and Keith,
I've attached my findings from my research of 6 November 2010. We're
another generation back!
Eileen
Attachment 1...
November 7, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Eileen, Chird, and Keith,
Chird, this is great news from Eileen. Chird, your
Bobbitt line is back another generation thanks to Eileen.
Thank you Eileen for going Saturday, 6 Nov 2010 to the Salt
Lake City, Utah Family History Library.
Marsha is hoping the Norfolk County Council has a better
quality copy of the 1708 Will of William Bobbit, yeoman of Ringsfield,
Suffolk, England that can be ordered.
Eileen, Marsha has 2 requests after you hear back from the
Norfolk County Council and have ordered and received a better quality copy
of the 1708 Will:
1. that you send Chird, Keith and Marsha a pdf of the
original 1708 Will of William Bobbitt, yeoman of Ringsfield, Suffolk,
England.
2. that you send Chird, Keith and Marsha a pdf of
your transcription of the original 1708 Will of William Bobbitt, yeoman of
Ringsfield, Suffolk, England
Note: Eileen, just in case the Norfolk County Council does
not have a better quality copy of the 1708 Will, did you make a copy of the
original 1708 Will of William Bobbitt, yeoman of Ringfield, Suffolk,
England while you were at the SLC FHL? And, did you make a transcription of
the 1708 Will?
Note: Marsha looked and the Norfolk Record Office online
catalogue gave the date 23 Aug 1679 for the settlement bond that involves a
John Bobbitt, cordwainer of Yarmouth, Norfolk.
The Great Yarmouth, Norfolk area needs to be researched.
Eileen, Marsha believes there is no need for us to meet
together to plan further research agenda until after the above is
accomplished [taken from Eileen's 7 Nov 2010 Research Report for Bobbett
Family of Beccles, Suffolk, England] and/or something else comes up in the
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk area.
Thank you Eileen. Great job. Keep in touch.
Regards,
Marsha
November 8, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird, Eileen and Keith,
For your Monday morning, 8 Nov 2010 reading and your records
should read are on Chird's private ancestry tree by Marsha and you all have
access.
Marsha has added William Bobbett [about 1650 to 1708 Will]
and wife Mary [about 1655 to 12 Nov 1738 burial] and their 3 daughters for
the present time called Miss Bobbett to Chird's private ancestry tree by
Marsha. Their sons William Bobbett and Peter Bobbett have been on the tree
for some time.
Marsha took a look at the Peter Bobbett information on
Chird's private ancestry tree which has no about marriage date and place,
but the complete marriage date and place that has been there for some time:
Peter Bobbett [bailiffe] born about 1696 of Beccles, Suffolk,
England
Married 25 July 1722 Ellough, Suffolk, England to Ann
Swallows
Source: Ellough Parish registers
Note: What is so interesting about the family of Peter
Bobbett and Ann Swallows is the number of deaths in their family in 1735 as
in the Beccles CD Burials:
Father Peter Bobbett buried 6 Mar 1735
Mother Ann Swallows buried 9 Feb 1735
Son John Bobbett buried 11 Mar 1735
Son Peter Bobbett buried 14 Nov 1735
The only child that lived and married was John Bobbett that
married Ann Ayton 5 Feb 1748 Ellough, Suffolk, England in the Ellogh Parish
registers.
Please make note of the about births dates and place
of Beccles, Suffolk, England on Chird's ancestry tree:
Father: Peter Bobbett born about 1696
Mother: Anne Swallows born about 1698
Son John Bobbett born about 1724
Son John Bobbett born about 1730 m. Ann Ayton
Son Peter Bobbett born about 1735
Question: Marsha wonders what caused the deaths the same
year of 1735 for 4 out of 5 members of the same family? Maybe it was one of
those diseases that runs through families as their extended family seem ok
as they raised the surviving John.
An extra note as your records should read: Peter Bobbett, the
son of Peter Bobbett and Mary Flowers:
born about 1757 Beccles, Suffolk, England
Burial: 24 July 1778 Beccles, Suffolk, Engand, Saint Michael
Source: 1500's to 1900's All Bobbet and Variations National
Burial Index England and Wales
Regards,
Marsha
November 8, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
We have a miracle.
How does the date of 1500 sound?
Attached are pictures of the town of
Marlingford, Norfolk, England, especially for you Chird.
Chird, you need to know Henry Bobbitt, of Marlingford,
Norfolk, England who left a Will probated in 1671.
And, later...
Yes, Eileen and I have a very big announcement for Chird, and
Eileen will make it after Eileen gets home from work today, Monday, 8 Nov
2010. Yes, it is something to write home about and shout from the rooftops.
Regards,
Marsha
November 8, 2010
Email by Eileen Sears
Hi Chird, Marsha, and Keith,
Yesterday was a great day for miracles. I definitely believe in the Hand of
Providence. . .
I am sending the file of all the names that have been gleaned from the last
months research. As soon as I receive the will of William Bobbett of
Ringsfield, Suffolk and the will of Henry Bobbett of Marlinsford, Norfolk, I
will update this file.
Eileen
November 8, 2010
Email by Eileen Sears
Hello,
I guess it really would be a miracle if you all get this file . . .
Eileen
Attachment 1...
This is a GED file.
November 8, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hi Eileen,
Wednesday at 1:30 pm works for me for us to meet together at
my house. Thank you.
I will go ahead and imput the information beginning with the
parents of William Bobbett or Bobbit, yeoman from Ringfield, Norfolk,
England from your 8 Nov 2010 Marlingford to Beccles tree on the private
ancestry tree I have for Chird.
Regards,
Marsha
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Eileen Sears
wrote:
Hi Marsha,
I'm so glad that you got the information. Miracles do not cease!!
Go ahead and input the data, even though there will be a few updates
when I obtain those 2 wills. I could meet on Wednesday at 1:30.
Would that work for you?
Eileen
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Marsha Berry
wrote:
Hello Eileen,
I have your RootsMagic4 Marlingford
to Beccles tree on my desktop and also have it on my
PAF5.2 on my desktop. They both read like they
should. Thank you Eileen. Great job.
Eileen, with what I am reading on
your other emails today, 8 Nov 2010, would you
advise me to wait to put your Marlingford to Beccles
tree information on the private ancestry tree I have
for Chird or go ahead and put it on?
I would like to meet together and go
over where we are now in the research and discuss if
we have missed anything. When are you free to meet
at my house?
Regards,
Marsha
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Eileen Sears
wrote:
Hi Chird, Marsha, and Keith,
Yesterday was a great day for miracles. I
definitely believe in the Hand of
Providence. . .
I am sending the file of all the names that
have been gleaned from the last months
research. As soon as I receive the will of
William Bobbett of Ringsfield, Suffolk and
the will of Henry Bobbett of Marlinsford,
Norfolk, I will update this file.
Eileen
November 9, 2010
Email by Chird Bobbitt
The progress you &
Eileen are making is truly impressive!
I really felt lost after
my DNA showed I was not related too all of you.
Thanks
Chird
November 10, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Keith,
Please add this email to your Bobbitt web site.
Thank you.
Regards,
Marsha
Hi Keith,
As I have mentioned previously, Eileen and I
are still researching Chird's genealogy and
intend on going further back in time if we
can.
There are some sources ready to put on your
Bobbitt web site and you have my approval to
do so and some we are waiting for furher
information which are not ready to put on
your Bobbitt web site.
Ready to put on your Bobbitt web site is the
main source for research for Chird's Bobbitt
genealogy concerning all Marlingford,
Norfolk, England births/baptisms, marriages
and burials for Chird's
William Bobbit born 1648 Marlingford,
Norfolk, England back to Edmund Bobbett
buried 1611 Marlingford, Norfolk, England
is
SOURCE:
Footnote:
FHL Microfilm 1,657,180
Bibliography:
Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1558-1783.
Salt Lake City, Utah FHL, Miciofilm
1,657,180, Family History Library, Salt Lake
City, Utah
Ready to put on your Bobbitt web site is
the source for the death of William Bobbett
or Bobbet 1708 age 60 in Ringsfield,
Suffolk, England is:
SOURCE:
Footnote: Item 2, 1707-1708; page 180;
Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah
Short Footnote: the same
Bibliography: Utah...Family History Library,
Salt Lake City, Utah, FHL microfilm
1,545,225
Ready to put on your Bobbitt web site is
the source for the 12 Nov 1728 Beccles,
Suffolk, England death of Mary Wright, wife
of William Bobbett or Bobbet is:
SOURCE:
Footnote and Bibliograhy: Suffolk Family
History Society, CD Charity no.
10877481087748, contains burials 1586-1833
Marsha refers you to Eileen's 7 Nov 2010
Research Report for Bobbett Family of
Beccles for the family of William Bobbet or
Bobbit and Mary Wright, which includes son
William Bobbett who married Susannah Budd.
The below is not ready to put on your
Bobbitt web site because Eileen is waiting
for further information.
Because the middle panel of all pages of the
1708 Will of William Bobbit yeoman of
Ringsfield, Suffolk, England were damaged
and illegible, but Eileen could read
enough to know who the parents were and most
of the children were that Eileen found in
the Salt Lake City, Utah Family History
Center,
Eileen has written the Norfolk County
Council to see if she can order a better
copy of the 1708 Will of William Bobbet or
Bobbit, [born 1648 Marlingford, Norfolk,
England] yeoman of Ringsfield, Suffolk,
England.
We are waiting for the Norfolk County
Council to respond to Eileen.
If a better copy of the Will is available, I
am sure after Eileen receives a better copy
of the 1708 Will, she will make a pdf of the
original and she will transcribe the Will on
a pdf. Eileen is a great Will transcriber
as you remember Keith from my Bobbett in
Suffolk County, England genealogy.
Regards,
Marsha
November 18,2010
Email by Marsha Berry
This email contains other emails that were attached to
the end.
Hello Chird,
Chird, this 1831 Will for William
Bobbett is not a link to your line. He is not in
the Beccles or Bungay births or marriages CD's. He
has come to Beccles from somewhere else before his
1st child was born in 1817 which absolutely does not
fit your line. And, there is no Walsingham or
Lowestoff area link to your line either.
Eileen and I have your Bobbett line
and the father of your Edmond[e] Bobbett buried 25
Dec 1611 in Marlingford, Norfolk, England is Thomas
Bobbet 1576 Will in Ipswich, Suffolk, England and
his father is Roger Bobbett 1521 Will in Ipswich,
Suffolk, England.
Ipswich is only 40 miles away from
Marlingford.
Chird, it is not unusual for Eileen
to send Wills or other records that may or may not
pertain to your line, because it is part of the
research process. Eileen sent me many Wills that
were not my line. Because Eileen and I do genealogy
research we kept all of these Wills.
As I do not have a Thomas Bobbett
with a son Edmond[e] in the 1576 Ipswich, Suffolk,
England Will and following with the father Roger
Bobbet in the 1521 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Will,
as I emailed from our last 10 Nov
2010 meeting, Eileen and I announced these 2 more
generations of your family Chird. Eileen and I will
check more about the children in these 2 Wills.
I will be adding these 2 generations
soon to the private ancestry tree I have for you
Chird.
Regards,
Marsha
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Chird
wrote:
I print
out all of the research emails and
place them in a 3 ring binder with
Eileens reports by mail for easier
reference.
I was
looking for the Walsinghan reference
last night doing some searching in
that area and came across the copy
of the will Eileen sent.
Just
wondered if it had been eliminated
as a link.
Thanks
Chird
----- Original Message -----
From:
Marsha Berry
Sent: Wednesday,
November 17, 2010 11:23 PM
Subject: Re:
Transcription of the Letters
of Administration for
William Bobbett of Beccles
1831
Hello Chird,
You asked in
your Wed 17 Nov 2010, 1 pm
email if anything was
discovered about the William
Bobbett in this 1831 Will?
What Eileen
sent in her 10 Sep 2010
email was a Letter of
Adminstration, which defined
is a formal document issued
by a court of probate
appointing manager of assets
and liabilities of the
estate of the deceased in
certain situations.
The Letters
of Administation for William
Bobbett of Beccles has his
widow Elizabeth Bobbett of
Beccles, Suffolk, England
and the Will was Probated on
10 Oct 1831.
Who is
William Bobbett in the 1831
Will in Beccles, Suffolk,
England?
Marsha
proposes he is
In the 1500's
to 1900's All Bobbet and
Variations National Burial
Index England and Wales,
27 Sep 1831
William John Bobbett age 48
Suffolk, England, St.
Michael
Note:
William would be born about
1783.
Marsha found
William Bobbett's wife is
Elizabeth Barrell in
Beccles, Suffolk, England,
in the new
Beta family search is
England Births and
Christenings, 1538-1975 and
these are
William John Bobbett and
Elizabeth Barrell's children
in Beccles, Suffolk,
England:
1. William
Ralph Bobbett baptism/chr 28
Feb 1816 Beccles and death
17 Jan 1817 Beccles
2. Mary Ann
Bobbett baptism/chr 12 May
1818 Beccles
3. Maria
Elizabeth Bobbett
baptism/chr 29 Mar 1820
Beccles
4. Lucy
Bobbett baptism/chr 3 Apr
1823 Beccles and death 11
Apr 1823 Beccles
5. Frederick
Barrell Bobbett baptism/chr
28 May 1824 Beccles
Indexing
Project Batch Number
C10525-1
System
Origin: England-ODM
Source Film
Number 952985
The same
children with their parents
William John Bobbett and
Elizabeth Barrell are on the
old familysearch. The
birth/christening and death
records are all extracted
and that was done in 1981.
Source
information:
Batch
Number C105251
Dates: Source Call
No All Film
1813-1818
0952318-0952327
1819-1822
0918502-0918508
1823-1825
0952979-0952985
1827-1834
0918510-0918524
1835-1837
0918530-0918534
The source is
Bishop's transcripts for the
Archdeaconry of Suffolk,
1685-1875 Church of
England. Archdeaconry of
Suffolk.
There is an
Elizabeth Burrell [Barrell]
with no husband giiven that
married on 1 June 1813 of
Fakenham, Norfolk, England
but this record was not an
extracted record, but was
submitted by relatives so
this may be a clue but is
not a source.
Any
questions?
Regards,
Marsha
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:00
PM, Chird
wrote:
Was anything
ever discovered
about the
William Bobbitt
in this 1831
will?
-----
Original
Message
-----
From:
Eileen
Sears
Sent:
Friday,
September
10,
2010
8:36
PM
Subject:
Transcription
of
the
Letters
of
Administration
for
William
Bobbett
of
Beccles
1831
Hi
everyone,
I
wish
this
document
would
have
been
more
helpful.
. .
I
hope
that
the
CD's
for
Beccles
and
Bungay
will
arrive
next
week.
I'm
sure
to
find
some
important
information
from
them.
Email by Eileen Sears
November 23, 2010
Will of William Bobbitt of
Ringsfield 1708
Transcription by Eileen Sears
18 November 2010
Attachment 1...
Email by Eileen Sears
November 23, 2010
Will of Henry
Bobbett of Marlingford 1670
Transcription by Eileen Sears
18 November 2010
Attachment 1...
