The Babbitt Connection
Marsha Berry Research
Eileen Sears
This is the genealogical DNA tested lineage Of Susan Maxwell Bobbitt-Schumaker, Raymond Babbitt, Elle Eddie, John W. Bobbitt - author of "The Bobbitt Family In America", and Jan Babbitt. These people were DNA testing at FamilyTreeDNA.com and we learned they had exact matches that did not match any other Bobbitt family. Marsha Berry Research found the paper trails of all tested went back to Edwardus Bobbitt. Further research found the paper trails went back to Thomas Bobbet. See research below.
A 3rd Marsha Berry Research Bobbitt/Babbitt Project with Eileen Sears Begins 4 March 2011
Marsha Berry Research Massachusetts Babbitt research will resume on 5 April 2011.
A 3rd Marsha Berry Research Bobbitt/Babbitt Research Project
with Eileen Sears Begins Friday, 4 March 2011 with meeting at
Marsha's house at 2 pm. Keith is a part of the research trio
for the perfect Y-DNA matched John W. Bobbitt, Elle Eddy and
Susan Maxwell Bobbitt-Schumaker and Raymond Babbitt. FamilyTreeDNA is
showing Raymond Babbitt an exact 12 allele match to Elle Eddy and John W. Bobbitt.
Therefore, Raymond's DNA numbers must be an exact match to Elle Eddy and John W.
Bobbitt.
Marsha has found the proof in the 1900 US Census, Butler county,
Ohio Census that James J. Bobbitt is the son of the Babbitt family
of Kentucky that goes back to the Massachusetts BABBITT family. Marsha Berry Research is unable to connect the
Massachusetts BABBITT family to Somerset County, England.
As of March 12, 2011, this research has ended. Listed below is the research of Marsha Berry and Eileen Sears.
As of March 19, 2011, new research will begin to find the parents of Edward Bobet. (See emails below)
If your pedigree is connected to the old lineage of John W. Bobbitt as found in the book "The Bobbitt Family In America", you will need to re-examine your info and bring it up to date with Marsha's information listed below.
John W. Bobbitt Lineage With Notes And Sources Updated 7-16-2011
John W. Bobbitt Lineage On Rootsweb
Samuel McClung Bobbitt WW1 Draft WV
Elle Eddy/James Terry Bobbitt Registry Report.PDF
Elly Eddy -- Rogers Family Research Emails
Susan Schumaker/Andrew Bobbitt Registry Report.PDF
Jan Babbitt Registry Report.PDF
A little computer trick. Hold down your CTRL key and press the + key (no shift) to make things larger. CTRL and - key (no shift) makes things smaller. CTRL and 0 (zero) brings everything back to normal. I use this little trick all the time when reading census reports or when text size is too small for my eyes.
Please remember. Two or more people with different DNA results can not have any ancestors who are the same. All ancestors must be different. Example: John W. Bobbitt and Keith Bobbitt have different DNA results. John and Keith can not have any ancestors who are the same... including our immigrant ancestors.
Susan Schumaker/Andrew Bobbitt Census Reports
Elle Eddy/Terry Bobbitt Census Reports
John W. Bobbitt Census Reports
Original Wills Zip File
Original Wills View Jpg Files
Transcriptions of Original Wills by Eileen Sears
Massachusetts Counties
West Virginia Counties
Email From Marsha Berry 3-4-2011
Hello Keith, Susan, Elle, and Eileen,
Today, Friday, 4 March 2011, 2-3 pm, was a historic first as Eileen Sears and Marsha Berry met at Marsha's house to discuss our research plans for John W. Bobbitt, Susan Schumaker, and Elle Eddy and Raymond Babbitt who share the same Y-DNA results. Eileen and Marsha have research assignments taken from the agenda on the attachment and today's email:
Attach: rtf
Please read our agenda on the attachment and please read the agenda in the email Marsha sent this morning of Friday, 4 March 2011.
Assignment for Eileen:
1. Look for a Will for Edward Bobet 1627-1675 from Taunton, Plymouth, Massachusetts. The dates may be approximate. Edward lived to be only 48 years old, so his father and relatives in Somerset County, England can outlive him.
2. There is the Great Card Index of the Society of Genealogists, London, in 1650 William Bobbett was a witness to the will of William Perry of Bridgewater, Somerset, England. This will was proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury as was the will of William Bobbett of Creech St. Michael [which is 3 miles east of Taunton, England].
Eileen, we do not need to obtain the William Perry will.
Is William Bobbett of Creech St. Michael the father of Edward Bobet born about 1627?
Eileen, The National Archives of England on the internet has the Will we need to obtain:
Online document PROB 11/305 - 3 pages
Will of William Bobbett Merchant Saint Michael Church,
Somerset
Date: 31 July 1661
There are 2 other Wills we need to obtain:
Online document PROB 11/380 - 2 pages
Will of Richard Bobbett Merchant Creech Saint Michael,
Somerset
Date: 30 May 1685
Online document PROB 11/414 - 2 pages
Will of Edmund Bobbett Merchant Saint Michael Church,
Somerset
Date: 20 May 1693
Keith, Susan, and Elle, there is a nominal charge, British currency of 3.50 for each will. Eileen is well trained to read and transcribe these wills.
3. Use the 1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales, Somerset County, England.
4. Help Marsha where needed.
Assignment for Marsha:
1. Work on taking Elle's Bobbitt line to Massachusetts.
2. Work on taking John W. Bobbitt's line from Franklin, Norfolk County, Massachusetts to Taunton, Plymouth County, Massachusetts.
3. Help Eileen where needed.
Note: Eileen and Marsha will meet together in a week or two if we need the time. And, we will be in telephone and email contact with each other.
Please note as we research there are different spellings of Bobbitt, Babbitt, Bobet, and Bobbett for the same family.
Regards,
Marsha
Good Morning Keith,
Welcome to Susan Schumaker's brother Andrew Bobbitt to our group. It is good to have one of the Y-DNA contributors on board. Elle, if you wish, we can add James [Terry] to our group as he is a Y-DNA contributor.
Keith, please 1st post these 2 attachments as they were the main agenda of our meeting.
Attach: rtf
Attach: rtf
Then, please post the email which was the report of what assignments Eileen Sears and Marsha Berry have as a result of our meeting, or our Friday, 4 March 2011 Bobbitt in MA 1st research meeting of Eileen Sears and Marsha Berry report email.
Thank you Keith. I am including this email to everyone so as they know you are posting Marsha's and Eileen's research progress as a repository on your keithbobbitt.com web site.
Regards,
Marsha
Hello Elle and everyone,
I know Elle has been waiting patiently for this and I have Elle's PAF 5.2 gedcom with her Bobbitt genealogy back to Edward Bobet in Taunton, Plymouth, Massachusetts.
A note to all of you: Not every person and in some cases not all of the data that could be on these gedcoms are on them because my purpose is to trace your genealogy correctly on your direct line pedigree and to see where and how all of you have the same ancestor.
This file has been taken off line for privacy purposes.
Elle, your ELLE EDDY BOBBITT GEN PAF 5.2.gedcom begins with James [Terry] Bobbitt.
Elle, your ELLE EDDY BOBBITT GEN PAF 5.2.gedcom begins with James [Terry] Bobbitt.
Elle, your pedigree beginning with John W. Bobbit born 1806 in Campbell County, Kentucky is:
Generation One:
John W. Bobbit and married Emoline Lile
Note: Elle, remember when you emailed me John W. Bobbit dropped the "t" in his surname? There was a copycat who is not related to you in Campbell County, Kentucky that dropped the "t" in his surname and one has to be careful when researching and know this copycat who absolutely not related to you is on the census as born in Virginia and North Carolina.
Generation Two:
Randolph Bobbit born 1780 Massachusetts and will recorded 6
Dec 1819 Campbell County, Kentucky
Attach: jpeg
Generation Three:
John Babbitt born 28 Feb 1761 Massachusetts and died Berkley,
Bristol, Massachusetts
Attach: jpeg
Generation Four:
John Babbitt born 2 Aug 1733 Berkley, Bristol, Massachusetts
and married Elizabeth Dean
Generation Five:
Benajah Babbitt born 19 Jul 1705 Dighton, Bristol,
Massachusetts and married Dorcas Jones
Generation Six:
Edward Eramus Babbitt born 15 Jul 1655 Taunton, Plymouth,
Massachusetts and married Abigail Tinsdale
Generation Seven:
Edward Bobet born 1626 in Taunton, Plymouth, Masachusetts or
Taunton,
Somerset, England and married Sarah Tarne
Note: Marsha now has Elle's and Susan's lines back to Edward Bobet and Sarah Tarne.
Marsha's next project is to take John W. Bobbitt's line further back than Rufus Bobbitt/Babett born about 1805 Franklin, Norfolk, Massachusetts, back to Edward Bobet.
Regards,
Marsha
Email from Eileen Sears... March 6, 2011
Hello Marsha, Keith, Susan, Elle, and Andrew,
Per my meeting with Marsha on Friday, March 4, one assignment on my agenda was to search for a will for Edward Bobet from Taunton, Bristol Co., Massachusetts.
What I found is Letters of Administration awarded to his wife, Sarah on pages 24-25 of the following book (which can be read online): Sarah's oldest son, Edward received a "double share of the whole estate" and was also made "guardian of [her] minor
children." Included was the specifics for the division of meadows, lands and
an inventory made of personal property.
"The Babbitt Family History 1643-1900" compiled by William Bradford Browne and printed in 1912 in Taunton, Massachusetts.
I'm sure that many of you have already seen this work and that I am not reporting anything new. However, if you haven't seen this book, it is a fascinating read from the very beginning of the book. It chronicles his acquisition of land, contains pictures of the probable area of his home and death. Pages 26 and beyond contain information on births, marriages, deaths of Edward Bobet's children and subsequent descendants and their wills.
One point mentioned on page 23 of the book indicates that it is probable that Edward came to America either in 1638 or 1639, which will be helpful in searching immigration records.
Take care, one and all,
Eileen
Email from Marsha Berry 3-7-2011
Hello Keith, Eileen, Elle, Andrew and Susan,
For your information here is the distance between towns that John W. Bobbitt's line of Babbitts lived in from Boston, Massachusetts where Edward Bobet and Sarah Tarne were married.
The town of Franklin, Norfolk, Massachusetts is 35 miles southwest of Boston.
The town of Berkley, Bristol, Massachusetts is 35 miles south of Boston.
The town of Freetown, Bristol, Massachusetts is 37 miles south of Boston.
The town of Dighton, Bristol, Massachusetts is 40 miles south of Boston.
The town of Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts is 30 miles south of Boston.
Each of these towns is no more than 40 miles from Boston, so John W. Bobbitt's family stayed in a close radius after moving from West Virginia to Massachusetts.
When Marsha researched John W. Bobbitt's line, she used many census. A few census are attached to this email, but not all. [The Census Reports are located at the top of this page]
Added Sunday, 6 March 2011 and Researched by Marsha Berry is Marsha's very basic pedigree PAF 5.2 gedcom called JOHN W BOBBITT AUTHOR on the private Berry Family web site in the File Cabinet. [This GEDCOM has been taken off line for privacy purposes.]
My family has had a private Berry Family Web Site for many years and Keith has access to Marsha's family private Berry Family Web Site. Keith has been obtaining what he places on his keithbobbitt.com web site for Marsha Berry Research and what Marsha has researched from Marsha's File Cabinet on her private Berry Family Web Site, and of course some emails.
Thank you Keith for having your web site as a repository for Marsha Berry Research for Eileen and I. It is very appreciated.
Elle and Terry; and Susan and Andrew, you can compare your Bobbitt/Babbitt lines with John W. Bobbitt's line.
John W. Bobbitt's pedigree is:
John William Bobbitt - born Kanawha County, West Virginia
Samuel McClung Bobbitt and Anna Lauretta Newlon - born Nicholas County, West Virginia
Elijah Bobbitt and Rowena Davis Robinson - born Nicholas County, West Virginia
Rufus Bobbitt and Mary Elizabeth Williams - born Nicholas County, West Virginia
Rufus Babett - born Franklin, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Ebenezer Babbit and Sally Cudworth - born Berkley, Bristol, Massachusetts
Abajah Babbitt and Ann Woodward - born Berkley, Bristol, Massachusetts
Edward Babbitt and Mehitabel Hathaway - born Dighton, Bristol, Massachusetts
Edward Erasmus and Abigail Tinsdale - born Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts
Edward Bobet and Sarah Tarne - are of Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts
Note: Marsha has completely ignored John W. Bobbitt's book: "The Bobbitt Family in America," when she has worked on former research projects and this current research because it has too many errors in it and is based on false assumptions. Another book to be careful of is the Wiliam Bradford Browne book in places.
Note: Now John W. Bobbitt knows who he is because he took a Y-DNA test and the paper trail matches the Y-DNA results. That is the best news.
Regards,
Marsha
Email from Marsha Berry 3-8-2011
Hello Keith,
If you have looked in my family Berry Family Web Site in
my File Cabinet, you have already found my 8 March 2011 update of JOHN W
BOBBITT AUTHOR PAF 5.2 gedcom,
plus the 1850 US Census Taunton Bristol Massachusetts
Luther Rufus Babbitt and his father's 2nd wife Hannah and the
1855 Massachusetts State Census with Luther Rufus Babbitt
and his father's 2nd wife Hannah.
Luther Rufus Babbitt father's 1st wife Sally died before
the 1850 US Census on 13 July 1848. And, Luther Rufus Babbitt's wife
died before the 1850 US Census.
Luther Rufus Babbitt was born 22 Feb 1808 Taunton,
Bristol, Massachusetts and is Rufus Babbitt in the 1840 US Census,
Franklin, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
Also, we have the Original 3 Somerset County, England
Wills.
On Tuesday, 8 March 2011 around 9 am,
Eileen is coming by Marsha's house to pick up the paper
copies of the 3 Original Wills from UK The National Archives which
Marsha purchased a download for British 3.50 each or a total British
10.50.
Marsha has the 3 Wills on a light key for Eileen to
enlargen the print.
Keith, please look in my family Berry Family Web Site in
my File Cabinet and you will find DCIM zip file 3 Original Bobbitt Wills
Somerset County England.
Eileen will transcribe each of these Wills. One of the
reasons Marsha asked Eileen to assist her, plus working together
previously on 2 different Bobbitt lines, is Eileen's forte is
transcribing old Wills.
Perhaps we may find Edward Bobbitt/Babbett/Bobet that
went to Massachusetts mentioned in a Will. Remember Edward died in his
40's, so his father has outlived him.
All of these are merchants in Saint Michael Church,
Somerset, England:
William Bobbitt 1666
Richard Bobbitt 1683
Edmund Bobbitt 1693
Note: The updated JOHN W BOBBITT PAF 5.2 gedcom has a lot
more added than what is on this email.
Please add these to your
keithbobbitt.com web site. Thank you.
Regards,
Marsha
[The GEDCOM files have been taken off line for privacy purposes.]
Email from Marsha Berry March 12, 2011
Hello Keith and Eileen,
Thank you Eileen for transcribing the 3 Bobbett Somerset
County, England Wills. You did a great job.
None of the 3 Bobbett Somerset County, England Wills
mentioned an Edward Bobbett, who could be the Edward Bobet in Taunton,
Massachusetts, USA. This does not surprise Marsha. William Bobbett is
the father and Richard and Edmund are his sons, all whose Wills were
Probated in Somerset County, England.
Note:
Marsha is not impressed by William Bradford Browne's
book, The Babbitt Family History 1643-1900, as all I read are multiple
or 6 guesses in Browne's book as to where Edward Bobet originated:
1. Wells, Somerset, England, near Taunton
2. Devonshire County, England
3. Wales
4. a step-son of Jonas Austin, from whom Edward purchased
land
5. a step-son of Jon Hathaway
6. a step-son of a Holloway
Note: Somerset County, England is not correct.
Devonshire is an error as it is Somerset County, England
where Wells is located.
Wales we know is not correct from the 1500's to 1900's
All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales.
Marsha checked the step-son theory and none have a Bobet
step-son.
Note: Marsha is not a multiple guesses researcher,
neither is Eileen.
Marsha looked at the passenger lists on The Olive Tree
and there was no Bobbitt of any spelling listed from 1620 to 1638 listed
from England to Boston, Massachusetts.
Eileen, there is one more small possibility. Marsha would
like you to research the immigration records and passenger lists around
1638 and 1639 for Edward Bobet or name variation to Massachusetts. But I
would expand that search from 1620 to 1654.
Please check the BYU Library and if it is not there,
please check the Salt Lake City, Utah Family History Library. Thank you
Eileen.
Eileen and Keith, if Eileen can not find an immigration
record for an Edward Babbitt/Bobet spelling of any variation born about
1626 and came to Massachusetts, as far as I am concerned our Babbitt in
Massachusetts research is completed and closed.
Marsha's researched gedcoms for Elle Eddy and Terry
Bobbitt, Susan Schumaker and Andrew Bobbitt, and John W. Bobbitt will
remain Edward Bobet born of Taunton, Plymouth, Massachusetts.
John W. Bobbitt's gedcom is ok as it reads Edward Bobet
of Taunton, Plymouth, Massachusetts.
Hold the press Keith. Please add these 2 Attach gedcoms
in this email to your
keithbobbitt.com web site. Thank you Keith.
The gedcoms for Elle Eddy and Terry Bobbitt; and Susan
Schumaker and Andrew Bobbitt are changed 11 March 2011 early am to read
Edward Bobet born of Taunton, Plymouth, Massachusetts.
Keith, I also have the changed gedcoms on our my family
Berry Family Web Site in the File Cabinet.
My prayers go out to the people in Japan who had an 8.9
earthquake and a 23 foot tusami go far inland...
Regards,
Marsha
Since no new information was found in the three Wills from Somerset England transcribed by Eileen Sears, this research has ended. DNA testing by Andrew Sparrow Bobbitt, Terry Bobbitt, and John W. Bobbitt set the tone and gave direction to this research. -- Keith Bobbitt
Marsha Berry Research Massachusetts Babbitt research will resume on 5 April 2011.
Partial email from Marsha Berry, March 19, 2011
It was 6 years ago George and Marsha moved from Arizona,
where we lived since 1984. Our former Arizona governor was Bruce Babbitt
from 1978 to 1987.
Bruce Babbitt and his family has different information than other Babbitts on their Babbitt family that goes back to Massachusetts. Bruce returned to England, the country of his ancestors, as he was a Marshall Scholar to the University of Newcastle, England and earned his Master's Degree in Geophysics.
Bruce Babbitt and his family are our hope for a better direction of our Babbitt research which Marsha and Eileen will begin again on 5 April 2011.
Marsha began with Bruce Babbitt and did his pedigree and now,
This gedcom file has been taken off line for
privacy purposes.
Announcing the BRUCE BABBITT AZ GOV gedcom PAF 5.2
Announcing the BRUCE BABBITT AZ GOV gedcom PAF 5.2
Please read the notes, especially Bruce Babbitt and Edward Bobbett or Bobet.
From an article Bah, Bah, Bruce
@1998 by Tim Findley, Range magazine, Carson City, Nevada
"Five Babbitt brothers of English Puritan stock by way of Cincinatti had made their way into the wild pine-laced ranges south of the Grand Canyon in 1886 to begin building a ranching and retail domain that at its peak would encompass most of northern Arizona....
The oldest story in the Babbitt family goes back to Edward "Bobet" [as he wrote it] who arrived in Plymouth Bay in 1639 as a mere one-year-old. Edward struggled with the others to wrest control of the raw land and build a new colony. He married and had children and won respect. Then one day out in the woods with his dog, he encountered a band of hostile Indians. Edward hid himself in the sheltering bows of a tree, but the barking dog attracted the war party's attention.
To this day, the family is proud of the little headstone erected to their ancestor, "Edward Bobbett," it said, "Kld June, 1675."
When our Massachusetts Babbitt research officially begins on 5 April 2011, we will also be researching the England sea ports, i.e., Liverpool, etc., in the time frame the Bruce Babbitt family has provided.
Please note... this research is not from Browne's book or John W. Bobbitt's book.
Bruce Babbitt's Edward Bobet Outline Descendancy Report
More information coming after April 5, 2011
Marsha Berry Research Begins Again On April 6, 2011
Click here to see the plan.
Email from Eileen Sears On April 17, 2011
Hello everyone,
Attached are the research findings for the week of April 17, 2011.
Marsha and I will get together, evaluate the findings and outline the
next course of research.
Email from Marsha Berry... April 18, 2011
Hello Keith,
Hello Keith,
Here are the results of the Monday, 18 April 2011
Massachusetts Babbitt Meeting with Eileen Sears and Marsha Berry.
Attach: rtf as PDF
18 Apr 2011 MA Babbitt Research Meeting Eileen and Marsha
Please add this attachment as a pdf to your
keithbobbitt.com web site 3rd Marsha Berry Research. Thank you.
Regards,
