Tony Witts Research

Tony Witts researched his family and Marsha Berry has backed it up.

Tony Witts has sent us his tester's DNA results.  See chart below.

During the last several years a few contacts have been made with a person in Australia.  She and I were never able to establish and confirm a Bobbitt connection.  Now, comes Tony Witts...

"I also believe you may have been in contact with a Shirley Holmes nee Bobbitt from Wodonga Victoria a few years ago, we got together and exchanged information about our family, Shirley was a first cousin to my mother Norma Witts nee Bobbitt, since then I have contacted the others in my tree and we have met over the last few months, Shirley has since passed on but I continue to try and find my past." --Tony Witts

Marsha Berry Research Adds Another Bobbitt Line From Suffolk, England

From 1780 Suffolk, England to Tasmania, Australia

Tony Witts from Australia contacted Marsha Berry to ask about his Bobbitt lineage.  Between the two of them, Tony and Marsha found and documented the following pedigree and will be searching for more generations.

Click here to see Tony Witts' Descendant Report

 

"Sunday, 10 April 2011, Tony Witts' Bobbitt genealogy is found in the Extracted Felixstowe, Suffolk, England parish registers. " -- Marsha Berry

Photo of James John Bobbitt the first born in Australia

Photo of Tony's Mother Norma Witts nee Bobbitt

Photo of Shirley Bobbitt and her sister Dorothy

Greetings again Keith

I neglected to send you a photo of myself, just so you know who all these emails are going to, that’s my grandson Nick with me ,he is now 19 going on 20, has lived with us since he was 14 months old.

Regards Tony

Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia

 

 

 

   This male Y-DNA chart shows 11 people with the surname Bobbitt have been tested and there are 5 different lines.

In the chart below, Marsha Berry's direct line male tester was Charles F. Bobbitt

Elle also had a direct line male tester... James Bobbit

Susan's tester was Andrew Sparrow Bobbitt

John W. Bobbitt (the author), Elle Eddy, and Susan Maxwell Bobbitt-Schumaker are a perfect match.  Their lineage goes to Edward Bobet or Edwardus Bobbet of Massachusetts.  Raymond Babbitt is also a match.  We need to compare results with more Babbitt family members.

Tester for Tony Witts is David Gerald Bobbitt

Bobbitt DNA Chart - Click Names For Descendancy Charts
Kit # Secret Name Haplotype DYS Marker Numbers (We are using the first 12 markers only)
3 3 1 3 3 3 4 3 4 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 G Y Y 4 6 5 5 C C 4 4 5 5 3 3 5 5 6 4 4 5 4 4 4 5 5 4 4 5 4 4 4 5 4 6 5 4 5 6 4 5
9 9 9 9 8 8 2 8 3 8 9 8 5 5 5 5 5 4 3 4 4 6 6 6 6 6 A C C 5 0 7 7 D D 4 3 3 7 9 9 9 3 4 7 0 1 2 1 1 5 9 3 9 3 5 4 8 2 4 1 6 8 7 4 9 6
3 0   1 5 5 6 8 9 9 2 9 8 9 9 5 4 7 7 8 9 4 4 4 4 0 T A A 6 7 6 0 Y Y 2 8 1 8 5 5 0 7 1 2 6 1 5 3 3 7 4 6 0 4 0 4 1 0 6 7 8 7 2 0 2 5
        a b       |   |   a b             a b c d   A                         S S         S     a b                                  
                  1   2                               II II         a b         1 1         1                                          
                                                    H a b                     a b                                                    
                                                    4                                                                                
GROUP 1 Common Ancestor Is Edward Bobet, b: 1626 in Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts
Kit # Secret John W. Bobbitt Unknown 14 22 16 10 13 15 11 13 12 13 12 32                                                                                                              
Kit # Secret Susan Maxwell Bobbitt Schumaker Unknown 14 22 ? 10 13 15 11 13 12 13 12 32                                                                                                              
Kit # Secret Elle Eddy Unknown 14 22 16 10 13 15 11 13 12 13 12 32                                                                                                              
GROUP 2 Common Ancestor Is William Bebat, b: Abt. 1440 in Hemley, Suffolk, England
Kit # Secret Marsha Berry I2b1 14 23 17 10 15 18 11 13 11 14 12 30                                                                                                              
Kit # Secret Stephen Bobbitt I2b1 14 23 17 10 15 18 11 13 11 14 12 30                                                                                                              
Kit # Secret Rosser Bobbitt I2b1 14 23 17 10 15 18 11 13 11 15 12 31                                                                                                              
Kit # Secret Keith Bobbitt I2b1 14 23 17 10 15 18 11 13 11 14 12 30                                                                                                              
GROUP 3 Common Ancestor Is Roger Bobett, Ipswich, Suffolk, England d: 4 Jan 1521
Kit # Secret Chird Bobbitt Unknown 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29                                                                                                              
Kit # Secret William Bobbitt Unknown 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29                                                                                                              
GROUP 4 Common Ancestor Is Unknown
Kit # Secret Rickey Bobbitt Unknown 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 14 14 17                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                           
GROUP 5 Common Ancestor Is James Bobbitt born about 1780 Suffolk County, England
Kit # Secret Tony Witts Unknown 13 23 14 10 13 14 11 15 11 12 11 28                                                                                                              

 

Emails

Hello Keith,
It is good to see Tony Witts and his male Bobbitt DNA results on the male Bobbitt DNA page on your keithbobbitt.com web site.
You have Common Ancestor is Unknown Suffolk County, England by Tony's DNA results. That is not true. It is in stone the common ancestors are James Bobbitt born about 1780 Suffolk County, England and his wife Elizabeth Fyatt.
James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt were married 7 April 1801 in Felixstowe, Suffolk, England and their 7 children were all chr in Felixstowe.
The extracted chr for each child has as parents James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt.
Batch Number: C062952
Dates: 1654-1812
Source Call Number: 0919571 Film
Parish registers for Felixstowe. Church of England.
Parish Church of Felixstowe [Suffolk]
Extracted marriage
Elizabeth Fryatt
Spouse: James Bobbitt
Marriage: 7 April 1801 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
Batch Number: M062952
Dates: 1654-1812
Source Call Number: 0919571 Film
Parish registers for Felixstowe, 1652-1876. Church of England.
Parish Church of Felixstowe [Suffolk]
Please make a pdf Descendancy for James Bobbitt from my TONY WITTS AUSTRALIA BOBBITT gedcom.
Attach: gedcom PAF5.2
TONY WITTS AUSTRALIA BOBBITT
Thank you Keith.
I am hoping Tony Witts will give me the go ahead and he and I can go back further than James Bobbitt born about 1780 in Suffolk County, England. I have not looked as of yet, but it is hoped a record for the chr of James Bobbitt is available. Tony's male Bobbitt DNA test results gives direction with now 3 known not related Bobbitt families in Suffolk County, England and will help make correct research.
Regards,
Marsha

4-8-2011

Hello Tony,
Good news.
On the old familysearch I have found the extracted John Bobbitt and Susan Avis 16 April 1828 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England marriage.
Individual record
Susan Avis
Spouse: John Bobbitt
Marriage: 16 Apr 1828 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
Extracted marriage record
Batch No. M062951
Dates: 1813-1876
Source Call No. 0919571 Film
Parish registers for Felixstow, 1652-1875 Church of England. Parish Church of Felixstow [Suffolk]
Also I found the extracted 10 March 1805 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England christening of John Bobbitt with his father James Bobbitt and mother Elizabeth Fryatt.
Individual record
John Bobbitt
Christening: 10 Mar 1805 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
Father: James Bobbitt
Mother: Elizabeth Fryatt
Extracted chr record
Batch No. C062952
Dates: 1652-1812
Source Call No. 0919571 Film
Parish registers for Felixstow, 1652-1875 Church of England. Parish Church of Felixstow [Suffolk]
A family relative has Susan Avis born about 1805 St. Peter, St. Paul, Felixstowe, England.
Individual record
by relative
Susan Avis
born about 1805 St. Peter, St. Paul, Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
no parents
no source
Susan lived her life in Felixstowe and was married to John Bobbitt in the Parish Church of Felixstowe.
I will look for extracted chr records for a Susan Avis or variation of Avis. I believe there is an extracted chr record for a Susan Aves, daughter of James Aves and Susan Jessop in Newmarket Saint Mary, Suffolk, England which is a long ways north from Felixstowe.
Felixstowe has the largest containment port in England.
This Suffolk County, Engand Bobbitt family is completely different from my cousin Keith Bobbitt and my Suffolk County, England line and is completely different from Chird Bobbitt's Suffolk County, England line.
Regards,
Marsha

 

4-9-2011

Hello Tony,
More good news.
On Saturday, 9 April 2011, in the old family search I found the extracted marriage of James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt.
Marriage record
Elizabeth Fryatt
Spouse: James Bobbitt
Marriage: 7 Apr 1801 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
Batch Number: M062952
Dates: 1654-1812
Source Call Number: 0919571 Film
Parish registers for Felixstowe, 1652-1876. Church of England.
Parish Church of Felixstowe [Suffolk]
This is your Descendancy thus far:
James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt
John Bobbitt and Susan Avis
Isaac Bobbitt and Susanna Hill
James Bobbitt
As we are into the weekend, I will do more researching after. We have company coming over shortly.
A question: Tony, do you know if son Isaac Bobbitt's son James Bobbitt had any sons to do a male DNA test?
Regards,
Marsha

 

4-10-2011

Hello Tony,
Thank you for who of the Bobbitt males in your family are interested in their family tree.
The next step in researching your Bobbitt line and being sure there is no mistake in doing your genealogy, being your Bobbitt line is now in Suffolk County, England, is to please ask one of your Bobbitt surname males in your family to do a male DNA test.
I am sure you have noticed the added name and email address of Keith Bobbitt on your emails as he is proven by a perfect DNA match to be my cousin as he perfectly DNA matched my cousin Charles F. Bobbitt. And, Stephen Bobbitt and Rosser Bobbitt are also a perfect male DNA match to Keith and I.
Keith has a Bobbitt web site keithbobbitt.com. And, Keith knows who does male DNA tests and can compare them for you and advise you through the process with your Bobbitt surname family member.
I have found some more extracted parish register records in Felixstowe, Suffolk, England on your family line to add children to James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt to a total of six children:
James Bobbitt chr 19 July 1801
Elizabeth Bobbitt chr 5 Jun 1803
*John Bobbitt chr 10 Mar 1805 [*your direct line]
Isaac Bobbitt chr 19 Aug 1807
Mary Anne Bobbitt chr 25 June 1809
Sarah Bobbitt chr 21 Sep 1814
Also I have found some more extracted parish register records in Walton and Felixstowe, Suffolk, England to add 2 daughters to John Bobbitt and Susan Avis to total three children:
*Isaac Bobbitt chr 27 Oct 1833 Walton, Suffolk, England [*your direct line]
Maria Bobbitt born 22 July 1835 and chr 23 Aug 1835 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
Elizabeth Bobbitt born 11 Aug 1837 and chr 27 Sep 1837 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
Also on ancestry I found the Hensen-Tuff Family Tree by hensonzirbel with James John Bobbitt and Ella Perkins with child Frank Victor Bobbitt and his wife Agnes Eleanor Moore and their child and your mother Norma Frances Bobbitt. This tree has your mother Norma Frances Bobbitt married Clifton George Witts and their children Phillip and Stephanie Witts deceased and 3 living male children.
Tony, please include the email address for Keith Bobbitt along with my 2 email addresses, gmail for large print and yahoo for storage, so I will know what you and Keith are doing in regard to the male DNA test for your Bobbitt line, etc.
I really need to know if you are or are not a 3rd male Bobbitt DNA line from Suffolk County, England. It all depends on who Elizabeth Fryatt is the daughter of because one Elizabeth Fryatt was chr 4 Dec 1775 in Grundisburgh, Suffolk, England, daughter of John Fryett and Susanna.
Tony, my 10th Great Grandfather John Bobbet was chr 20 Jan 1579 in Grundisburgh, Suffolk, England and his 2 sisters were christened there too. My 10th Great Grandfather John Bobbitt is also Keith Bobbitt's direct line.
Tony, please go on Keith Bobbitt's keithbobbitt.com web site and you will see the various male DNA results. So far we have 2 Suffolk County, England Bobbitt lines, proven not related to each other by male DNA test results.
Are you related to one of the Bobbitt Suffolk County, England male DNA results or are you a 3rd Bobbitt line in Suffolk County, England?
I don't know what genealogy program you have, but I use PAF 5.2.
Attach: gedcom
TONY WITTS AUSTRALIA BOBBITT
Please let me know if you can open the gedcom or not. Keith knows more about opening gedcoms than I do when people have a different program than PAF 5.2. The old familysearch has a free PAF 5.2 download. There are no living people's names on this gedcom.
Tony, does Keith Bobbitt have your permission to put a descendancy for James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt on his keithbobbitt web site? Keith will not put my gedcom on his web site but he will make the descendancy from it.
Regards,
Marsha

 

4-11-2011

Hello Keith,
Tony Witts of the Australia to Suffolk County, England Bobbitt line requests you contact him.
Keith, Tony has given his permission for you to make a James Bobbitt Descendancy from the 10 April 2011 TONY WITTS AUSTRALIA BOBBITT Update and Correction PAF 5.2 gedcom on my private family Berry Family web site in the File Cabinet, and place the Descendancy on keithbobbitt.com.
Before you place the James Bobbitt Descendancy online, please email Tony what the James Bobbitt Descendancy will look like. Thank you Keith.
And, Keith and Tony, a reminder of Tony asking a male Bobbitt relative of Tony's to take a male DNA test.
Regards,
Marsha

 

4-11-2011

Hello Tony,
Marsha Berry gave me your email address. Congratulations on finding your Bobbitt line.
I will add your lineage to our Bobbitt web site if you approve.
You may want to consider DNA testing. You will need a male in your direct line with the surname Bobbitt to be the tester. Several of us have used the lab at https://www.familytreedna.com/Default.aspx Any DNA lab will work ok though. The test is easy... no blood... just saliva. DNA testing gives us proof positive about our research and it can be a great help to other people who are also researching.
It's nice to meet a fellow Bobbitt. Keep in touch.
Keith

 

4-11-2011

Hi Keith

Nice to get your email, I have tried the link you gave me but it keeps coming up 404 page error, I will try again later, in regards to my tree I have no objections to you showing the content.

The DNA test will be great to hopefully find that link, and having Bobbitt’s... who are happy to be tested is even better. I will follow that up or you can advise what you think should be done.

In regards to my Bobbitt searching I am only back to the late 1700’s with James Bobbitt bc 1780 and Elizabeth Fryatt bc 1780 both from Walton Suffolk, the Bobbitt who started the Australian link was Isaac bc1833 at Walton the son of John B and Susan Avis, Isaac came to Australia around 1856, the only record of arrival we could find was for a Mr Babbitt, crew on the clipper “Caribbean “...

I also believe you may have been in contact with a Shirley Holmes nee Bobbitt ... a few years ago, we got together and exchanged information about our family, Shirley was a first cousin to my mother Norma Witts nee Bobbitt, since then I have contacted the others in my tree and we have met over the last few months, Shirley has since passed on but I continue to try and find my past.

Kindest Regards

Antony ( Tony )

 

4-13-2011

Hello Tony,
Thank you Tony for your 12 Apr 2011 email. I have made the corrections and additions you emailed me on my gedcom and have put your 12 April TONY WITTS AUSTRALIA BOBBITT gedcom PAF5.2 on my family private Berry Family web site in the File Cabinet for Keith Bobbitt to use to make a corrected James Bobbitt Descendancy for his keithbobbitt.com web site.
Thanks again Tony.
Regards,
Marsha
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:30 PM, tony witts wrote:

Hi Marsha

Received the info from Keith, he advised me to let you know of any alterations

1 Susan Avis died at Gravesend England

2 Susanna Hill b1842 Hobart Tasmania

3John James Bobbitt b1865 Nunawading Victoria Australia d1954 Malvern Victoria Aust

4 Ella Perkins b c1859 Bedfordshire England d1942 Prahran Victoria Aust

5 George Bobbitt b1887 Prahran Victoria Aust, d 1972 Caulfield Victoria Aust

6 Herbert Bobbitt b1895 Armadale Victoria Aust

7 Alfred Bobbitt b1894 Prahran Victoria Aust d 1899 Prahran Victoria Aust

No other children for Clifton Witts and Norma Bobbitt

Marsha I also have the Marriages for the other Aust Bobbitts and the Suffolk Bobbitts attached to my tree, the latter were taken from Familysearch

Regards Tony

 

4-20-2011

Hello Tony,
Did you hear the shouts of joy all the way from my house in USA to Australia when I read about the DNA test your cousin David Bobbitt will do and the way you are being sure it is completed and sent back to the USA?
Tony, the birth year of 1894 and death year of 1899 for Alfred Bobbitt came from you as you are the source as per your 12 April 2011 email to me that had 11 alterations: Afred being number 7 of the 11 alterations. I have changed Afred's birth date to 1884 and the death year to 1889.
I have a concern in that I cannot find any indexed or extracted chr record which is a parish register for an Ishmael Bobbitt that you sent me born about 1811, son of James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt.
A patron submitted Ishmael Bobbitt born about 1811 Felixstowe, Suffolk, England with parents James Bobbitt and Elizabeth Fryatt to the IGI. This is not an indexing or extracted parish register.
In the new familysearch is:
1840 England Census
Ishmael Bobbitt
age 30
birthplace: Suffolk
record type: household
registration district: Woodbridge
sub district: Colneus
Civil Parish: Felixstowe
County: Suffolk
Note: This does not prove who his parents are.
In my previous emails I sent you the individual and marriages that are indexing or extracted parish registers that are in the old and new familysearch. You have to be careful of what record you use as a source in familysearch.
Thank you Tony.
Regards,
Marsha
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM, tony witts wrote:

Hi Marsha

After a lot of hassle trying to find a testing place in Aust I have ordered a kit from the company that Keith recommended, family tree dna .com, it was also the cheapest $130.00 US for a 25 marker test which included postage to Australia, as soon as I receive the kit I will forward it on to David Bobbitt my cousin, have him do the swab, return the kit to me, that way I will know it is completed and forwarded back to the US.

I also have another alteration to the Bobbitts Aust, the information that you had,can you tell me where it came from, they had a number of mistakes and I would be interested to find out who supplied them with their information, the alteration I have is for Alfred Bobbitt his birth year is 1884 not 1894 and death year is 1889 not 1899.

I have attached some details on other marriages linked to my tree, some has been obtained from the LDS Familysearch site and from family connected to the others but not confirmed, hope you can make something out of it.

Regards Tony

 

4-21-2011

Hello Tony,
You are doing fine with this research. This is exciting for you. I just wish the patron submissions on the familysearch IGI could give their sources like the Ishmael Bobbitt entry. In my notes I have this is a patron entry and not an indexing or extraction parish register.
Please forward the results of the DNA test to Keith Bobbitt. He will post the results of the DNA test on his web site.
You can also email me the DNA results when you email Keith. Thank you.
Regards,
Marsha
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:36 PM, tony witts wrote:

Hi Marsha

Thanks I will be more careful in the future, one tends to get excited when the possibility of finding a new name jumps out at you.

Marsha in regards to the DNA test do I forward it to you when I receive the results.

 

Regards tony

 

4-23-2011

Hello Tony,
I am not aware of a pdf you provided Keith Bobbitt and I.
It was quite a while ago I came across a family tree on ancestry but I used no information from it.
I have informed you before I made a PAF 5.2 of your genealogy named TONY WITTS AUSTRALIA BOBBITT. From my PAF 5.2, a pdf descendancy can be made. You gave permission for Keith and I to make an Outline Descendant Report for James Bobbitt from my PAF 5.2 and for Keith to place the descendancy on his keithbobbitt.com web site.
From my PAF 5.2 of your genealogy, I asked Keith to make a pdf Outline Descendant Report for James Bobbitt, so people cannot change what I have. The only living son I have is you.
Regards,
Marsha

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:20 PM, tony witts wrote:

Hi Marsha

I forgot to reply about the pdf file on my tree that you thought I had provided to you or Keith, I did not supply this to you, I have never had a pdf file on my family, my only tree is on Genes Reunited, you did mention a record from ... family I think on Ancestry, the fact that who ever compiled this file had 3 living sons to my mother and father has me wondering where they obtained the information.

Regards Tony

 

5-4-2011

Hi Keith

Just a quick note to let you know the DNA kit arrived today from the US, I will forward it on to David Bobbitt tomorrow and with any luck it will be returned to the US early next week.

Regards Tony

 

5-16-2011

Hi Keith

Just to let you know the DNA kit was posted back today, I had a little trouble getting it back from David Bobbitt, while on David Bobbitt he mentioned a possible connection between the USA and Australian families, his grand father Herbert mentioned some years ago a connection to an Alan Augustas ( Gus ) Bobbitt, that he was a law officer in the US, he was sure his grand father had some document or letter claiming the link but this was never found after his death.

The other thing I never mentioned in the photo of John James Bobbitt that I sent you was the name of the child he is holding, it is Shirley Holmes nee Bobbitt’s son Alan Holmes.

Regards Tony

 

5-26-2011

Hello Tony,
Thank you for letting me know Family Tree in Houston received your David Bobbitt's DNA kit.
I am getting excited to know the results. Keith Bobbitt will want to know too.
I am wondering if your Bobbitt line is or is not related to any of the now 3 different Bobbitt lines in Suffolk County, England who have been male DNA tested of which I am aware:
1. Keith Bobbitt and Marsha Berry
2. Chird Bobbitt
3. John W. Bobbitt and 2 others
My husband and I live in ... so we have had temperatures lower than normal and rain in the valleys and snow in the mountains all through April and into May. We are to finally warm up to normal May temperatures. We have had no violent storms here.
It is in the plains states and midwest, especially in Joplin, Missouri and Ohio valley that has had more than the usual amount of terrible tornadoes.
Regards,
Marsha
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:39 PM, tony witts wrote:

Hi Marsha

Just to let you know the DNA kit was received by Family Tree in Houston today.

I hope your not involved with the terrible weather being experienced in the USA.

Regards Tony

 

7-6-2011

Hi Keith
Located the attached this morning after logging in to FTDNA, there was no
advice from them that they had completed the tests which was a bit
disappointing, I look forward to your reply once you have examined the
results.
Regards Tony

 

7-6-2011

Hi Tony,
This is an exciting time. Thank you for David Bobbitt's FTDNA results. Please thank David for me for doing his Bobbitt DNA test. This verifies and puts in stone your Bobbitt paper trail thus far.
Your Bobbitt line is a 3rd Bobbitt line in Suffolk County, England that is not related to Keith Bobbitt and my Suffolk County, England line and is not related to Chird Bobbitt and his Suffolk County, England line.
I know Keith will post your FTDNA results on his keithbobbitt.com web site.
When you are ready, would you like you and I to continue research on your Suffolk County, England line?
Thank you for the exciting news.
Regards,
Marsha
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM, tony witts wrote:

Hi Marsha

Please find attached the information from FTDNA, I have forwarded the details to Keith and I look forward to his reply.

Regards Tony

 

A big 'Thank You' to the people involved in this research so far.  It takes a while to get tested but it's worth it.

Keith